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	<description>Monetizing websites - viking style!</description>
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		<title>By: Living on Adsense</title>
		<link>http://www.vikingblogger.com/2008/02/10/adtoll-introduce-peel-away-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-341</link>
		<dc:creator>Living on Adsense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I said before, we have to agree to disagree.  We are of two differing philosophies on blogging.  Yes, the purpose of my blog is make money, yes I am willing to test and try out different ways of monetizing my blog.

Fine. Shoot me, call me selfish.

But EVERY person that comes to my blog knows why it is there; to make me money.  This is why I am open to different advertising models, because not only can I make money from these ads, but my readers can learn whether or not these ads are effective.

So essentially what I am doing is creating a simple balance between advertising and readership.  As I pointed out earlier, if you have ads you must cater them to your audience, and that is exactly what I have done, and what so many other &#039;make money&#039; bloggers do.

Your blog is not about making money, from what I can tell it is about ranting and complaining about various topics (I saw the word sucks quite often in your titles and posts).  We have two completely different blogs, and therefore has two completely different views on ads.  My readers expect ads, and furthermore  want to know how my ads are doing so that they may implement similar strategies.  Your readers think ads &quot;suck&quot; and therefore  you do not have ads.

As I in a previous comment: &quot;Different blogs require different monetization strategies...&quot;

I can see your perspective, and yes you are absolutely correct that &quot;These ads are ancient and very annoying: traditional banners should be used in all cases, without pop-ups, DHTML tricks or Flash.&quot;, as pertaining to your blog.

But not mine.

In conclusion, our blogs are different, so our view points on this topic are different.  We just have to agree to disagree.


**Claps** I&#039;m out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said before, we have to agree to disagree.  We are of two differing philosophies on blogging.  Yes, the purpose of my blog is make money, yes I am willing to test and try out different ways of monetizing my blog.</p>
<p>Fine. Shoot me, call me selfish.</p>
<p>But EVERY person that comes to my blog knows why it is there; to make me money.  This is why I am open to different advertising models, because not only can I make money from these ads, but my readers can learn whether or not these ads are effective.</p>
<p>So essentially what I am doing is creating a simple balance between advertising and readership.  As I pointed out earlier, if you have ads you must cater them to your audience, and that is exactly what I have done, and what so many other &#8216;make money&#8217; bloggers do.</p>
<p>Your blog is not about making money, from what I can tell it is about ranting and complaining about various topics (I saw the word sucks quite often in your titles and posts).  We have two completely different blogs, and therefore has two completely different views on ads.  My readers expect ads, and furthermore  want to know how my ads are doing so that they may implement similar strategies.  Your readers think ads &#8220;suck&#8221; and therefore  you do not have ads.</p>
<p>As I in a previous comment: &#8220;Different blogs require different monetization strategies&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I can see your perspective, and yes you are absolutely correct that &#8220;These ads are ancient and very annoying: traditional banners should be used in all cases, without pop-ups, DHTML tricks or Flash.&#8221;, as pertaining to your blog.</p>
<p>But not mine.</p>
<p>In conclusion, our blogs are different, so our view points on this topic are different.  We just have to agree to disagree.</p>
<p>**Claps** I&#8217;m out!</p>
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		<title>By: lamib</title>
		<link>http://www.vikingblogger.com/2008/02/10/adtoll-introduce-peel-away-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-340</link>
		<dc:creator>lamib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not about your monetization. It&#039;s about the end user. Any selfish bastard looking to get money over blog readers or website visitors should be shot.

Yes, if you want to try &quot;modern ways&quot; than to use the good, proven old banner ads, you should go for it: in the meanwhile you&#039;ll lose every blog reader of yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not about your monetization. It&#8217;s about the end user. Any selfish bastard looking to get money over blog readers or website visitors should be shot.</p>
<p>Yes, if you want to try &#8220;modern ways&#8221; than to use the good, proven old banner ads, you should go for it: in the meanwhile you&#8217;ll lose every blog reader of yours.</p>
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		<title>By: The Chronicles of Staale The Viking Blogger &#124; ahkong.net</title>
		<link>http://www.vikingblogger.com/2008/02/10/adtoll-introduce-peel-away-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-325</link>
		<dc:creator>The Chronicles of Staale The Viking Blogger &#124; ahkong.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ad Toll&#8217;s Peel Away Ads is introduced in the second one, and personally I find it to be a rather unique way to present Ads. Unique it might be, I am not particularly convinced that it is actually useful and use worthy though. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ad Toll&#8217;s Peel Away Ads is introduced in the second one, and personally I find it to be a rather unique way to present Ads. Unique it might be, I am not particularly convinced that it is actually useful and use worthy though. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Living on Adsense</title>
		<link>http://www.vikingblogger.com/2008/02/10/adtoll-introduce-peel-away-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-305</link>
		<dc:creator>Living on Adsense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lamib: These &quot;ancient&quot; ad techniques that YOU find &#039;obviously annoying&#039; can actually be quite effective if used in the correct context.  Be wary of making your monetization decisions based on your personal opinion, let testing be the decider.

Personally, I agree that the peel-aways are annoying to me as well as do many other web savvy internet marketing types.  But, guess what? These same ads will work quite well in a niche that caters to a less web savvy individual.

Having a &quot;set in stone&quot; mentality when it comes to monetization (or anything, for that matter), without testing and considering various alternatives is great way to limit your potential income.

I think in this case we may have to agree to disagree, and if that is the case I strongly urge you to NOT Google the phrase &quot;banner blindness&quot; in regard to your traditional banners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lamib: These &#8220;ancient&#8221; ad techniques that YOU find &#8216;obviously annoying&#8217; can actually be quite effective if used in the correct context.  Be wary of making your monetization decisions based on your personal opinion, let testing be the decider.</p>
<p>Personally, I agree that the peel-aways are annoying to me as well as do many other web savvy internet marketing types.  But, guess what? These same ads will work quite well in a niche that caters to a less web savvy individual.</p>
<p>Having a &#8220;set in stone&#8221; mentality when it comes to monetization (or anything, for that matter), without testing and considering various alternatives is great way to limit your potential income.</p>
<p>I think in this case we may have to agree to disagree, and if that is the case I strongly urge you to NOT Google the phrase &#8220;banner blindness&#8221; in regard to your traditional banners.</p>
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		<title>By: lamib</title>
		<link>http://www.vikingblogger.com/2008/02/10/adtoll-introduce-peel-away-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-304</link>
		<dc:creator>lamib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Living on Adsense: No matter how much you want money, you should be arrested if you go and use &lt;b&gt;ancient Flash ad techniques that are obviously annoying&lt;/b&gt; (such as these &quot;peel away ads&quot; that I&#039;ve seen for years now) or other DHTML-trick using adverts that mess up the page or distract the viewer.

Traditional banners should only be used. Like &quot;no-pay&quot; Adsense.

&lt;i&gt;Or maybe even better: have a blog that doesn&#039;t have ads at all!&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Living on Adsense: No matter how much you want money, you should be arrested if you go and use <b>ancient Flash ad techniques that are obviously annoying</b> (such as these &#8220;peel away ads&#8221; that I&#8217;ve seen for years now) or other DHTML-trick using adverts that mess up the page or distract the viewer.</p>
<p>Traditional banners should only be used. Like &#8220;no-pay&#8221; Adsense.</p>
<p><i>Or maybe even better: have a blog that doesn&#8217;t have ads at all!</i></p>
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		<title>By: picxx</title>
		<link>http://www.vikingblogger.com/2008/02/10/adtoll-introduce-peel-away-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-278</link>
		<dc:creator>picxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Living on Adsense. By excluding any possible income source on youre blog, you are allso excluding any possible positive income on youre blog. It&#039;s not like the peel away ad&#039;s are occupying space for other ad&#039;s to be used.

I have mainly used them at travel blogs (wich are not really blogs, but more like travel info sites) with great success compered to more traditional advertising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Living on Adsense. By excluding any possible income source on youre blog, you are allso excluding any possible positive income on youre blog. It&#8217;s not like the peel away ad&#8217;s are occupying space for other ad&#8217;s to be used.</p>
<p>I have mainly used them at travel blogs (wich are not really blogs, but more like travel info sites) with great success compered to more traditional advertising.</p>
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		<title>By: Living on Adsense</title>
		<link>http://www.vikingblogger.com/2008/02/10/adtoll-introduce-peel-away-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-274</link>
		<dc:creator>Living on Adsense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@lamib: Its interesting that you call the peel away ads ancient and are pushing the old school banners.  I think to make a sweeping generalization that &quot;traditional banners should be used in all cases, without pop-ups, DHTML tricks or Flash&quot; is flawed.  You need to base your blog&#039;s advertising model on your specific blog topic and your audience. For example I agree that peel away ads probably do not work very well for blogs about blogs or making money.

Different blogs require different monetization strategies, and to say that traditional banners should be used in all cases is limiting your income possibilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@lamib: Its interesting that you call the peel away ads ancient and are pushing the old school banners.  I think to make a sweeping generalization that &#8220;traditional banners should be used in all cases, without pop-ups, DHTML tricks or Flash&#8221; is flawed.  You need to base your blog&#8217;s advertising model on your specific blog topic and your audience. For example I agree that peel away ads probably do not work very well for blogs about blogs or making money.</p>
<p>Different blogs require different monetization strategies, and to say that traditional banners should be used in all cases is limiting your income possibilities.</p>
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		<title>By: Chetan</title>
		<link>http://www.vikingblogger.com/2008/02/10/adtoll-introduce-peel-away-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-273</link>
		<dc:creator>Chetan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with you lamib.. as a visitor point of view, many dont like the flash type of ads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with you lamib.. as a visitor point of view, many dont like the flash type of ads.</p>
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		<title>By: lamib</title>
		<link>http://www.vikingblogger.com/2008/02/10/adtoll-introduce-peel-away-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-272</link>
		<dc:creator>lamib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These ads are ancient and &lt;b&gt;very annoying&lt;/b&gt;: traditional banners should be used in all cases, without pop-ups, DHTML tricks or Flash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These ads are ancient and <b>very annoying</b>: traditional banners should be used in all cases, without pop-ups, DHTML tricks or Flash.</p>
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		<title>By: picxx</title>
		<link>http://www.vikingblogger.com/2008/02/10/adtoll-introduce-peel-away-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-271</link>
		<dc:creator>picxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 06:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been using peel away ads on a few sites now for about 6 months time. The ctr on the peel away ads is around 10% while all other ads on the site is somewhere between 3-5%.
The biggest concern is as mentioned above, that someone can find them so annoying that they will not return to the site, therefore i have been cautious and will not throw up the script at all my sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been using peel away ads on a few sites now for about 6 months time. The ctr on the peel away ads is around 10% while all other ads on the site is somewhere between 3-5%.<br />
The biggest concern is as mentioned above, that someone can find them so annoying that they will not return to the site, therefore i have been cautious and will not throw up the script at all my sites.</p>
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